How does that work? Anyone can be a Christian in America, but no one has to be, either.

America is a worldly government. Clearly, one of the greatest ones, and likely the greatest. Sure, it might have God on its side, at least in theory, and you might believe it has God on its side, and you might really want to believe it has God on its side, but we have no proof either way. So, the best it can be is detached from promoting religion. That’s what God, if God exists, would want.

We don’t even know if God is real, or if ‘real’ even matters by the time you’re talking about God. That’s built-in, to religion. If we knew, faith wouldn’t be part of religion. Major scholars have been having these discussions and arguments for decades. We aren’t really sure what consciousness is, either, or if life goes on after death, or stops, or both. American government = should not be directly involved, but should protect the discussion. An intelligent government, in fact, knows this already.

At some point the creators of republican democratic government had a brilliant idea, which was that, to be truly free, people must have the right to choose what religion they’ll follow, if any. I know, I know, hold your applause for our genius Founders.

Christians (mostly) founded the United States. That’s Christianity’s one legitimate claim to fame, with regard to the United States. The United States Constitution claims to be a moral document, and it is, and that’s a real similarity to it and many values important to Christianity. But, it doesn’t force you to believe in the Resurrection, or anything else explicitly Christian for that matter, if you don’t want to. Never mind at least a few of the Founders were atheists, and agnostics. Never mind that Thomas Jefferson owned a Koran.

America is a place where you should be able to practice your Christianity freely, without fear or favor. And, it also allows people of other faiths to do the same. Officially. Really. Without preference. You can even do it “your way,” and even if it’s messed up, if it’s not hurting anyone. I don’t think the Earth is 6,000 years old, for example. I also think God is pro-choice (yup). Yes, I think people believing otherwise is a theoretical problem for society in a long-term, protracted sense. But, I’m not going to force them to not believe creationism or that contraception is immoral, I’m just not going to allow either to be taught in our public, taxpayer-funded schools. Libertarians are fond of saying that churches should do their part in society, free of government burden and overreach. Well, let them teach religion, and let government deal with making, enforcing, and interpreting secular, morality-based, laws. And, following science, particularly since modern American Christianity doesn’t seem to be too interested in it, for some reason.

So, in America, be as Christian as you want. Even, run for office and swear on the Bible. But, don’t require everyone to use the Bible. That will eventually start to cause problems. Guaranteed. Because it should.

Because America’s not a Christian nation. Pretty sure. Quick, let me check: Nope, no sign of Jesus Christ anywhere in the Declaration of Independence OR the Constitution, my my.

No, the Founders didn’t leave it out because they figured everyone would just assume it of them, since a majority of them were.

That’s as dumb a theory as any. They left out Christianity and Jesus Christ ON PURPOSE. We have the receipts.

No one’s forcing any religion on anybody. Let’s keep it that way.

If your religion is worth anything, you going around living and talking it should be enough. You shouldn’t need, or want, the state to pimp it out. It would do a really horrific job, I promise.

These January 6’ers can’t even agree as to whether they were antifa or not. You don’t want them interpreting Constitutional law through the lens of Scripture, I promise.

If you mix church and state, you slander them both. One is primarily of the spiritual/heavenly realm, the other primarily of the corporeal/earthly realm. They do not mix well by default. The Bible calls this the devil’s world. In certain ways it’s being hyperbolic, and in other ways it’s being serious.

Don’t give jails, courts and guns to Satan.

John 14:30 ESV
I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no claim on me,

John 12:31 ESV
Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out.

Revelation 12:9 ESV
And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

It’s been tried, in fact. Many other places. With, more religions than just Christianity. For, like, thousands of years. Devil always wins. Pretty quickly, usually. Through… trickery! His trademark. He deceives, he’s not usually upfront. Said another way, everyone thinks they’re fighting for God.

The Inquisition called itself of a Christian government.

The conquistadors called itself of a Christian government.

The Crusaders called itself of a Christian government.

The settlers who drove indigenous peoples off their land and committed genocide did it in the name of Jesus Christ.

The Confederacy called itself a Christian government. Miscontextualized the Bible’s historical accounting of man’s civilizational evolution to justify its ancient, barbaric practice, in fact.

For a time, the Nazis called themselves a Christian government. Yes, we have the quote.

“We demand freedom for all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or conflict with the customs and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The party as such represents the standpoint of a positive Christianity, without owing itself to a particular confession….” Source: Article 20 of the program of the German Workers’ Party (later named the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, NSDAP)

The reality was that Hitler hated Christianity. We can be pretty certain of this because, well, he wasn’t too keen on a religion with a man who called himself the King of the Jews as its godhead. But, again, we also have the receipts:

In his private diaries, Goebbels wrote in April 1941 that though Hitler was “a fierce opponent” of the Vatican and Christianity, “he forbids me to leave the church. For tactical reasons.”[17]

Guess what? The Nazis weren’t socialists, either.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/29/greenes-ahistorical-claim-that-nazis-were-socialists/

I could go on.

1 John 5:19 ESV
We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

1 Peter 5:8 ESV
Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

Some governments force religion. Others make it illegal. Both are wrong. I know the latter is wrong because, though not all people believe in a deity, it’s arguably in human nature, generally, to do so. I know the former is wrong because it has always screwed up, become corrupted, drunk on its unholy union of power. This virtually proves that there has to be a separation.

It’s great we overcame slavery. Too bad 660,000 mostly White American men like me died doing it. And, boys.

These people are clueless.

I wonder what Gina Loudon, as a Trump supporter, feels about it all, now. I suspect Rye may have missed an opportunity: having an adopted minority child with Down Syndrome is kind of a big deal. Can it theoretically be faked, as a political credibility card? Sure, and some politicians would do it. If it wasn’t faked, though, then it definitely says something about her character. I wonder if Loudon really believed the Trump train was good for her son, as she claims here, or not. We’ll never know from this segment, though, because it was not properly explored.

Some drew a similar observation about Kavanaugh, that he couldn’t be a misogynist because he had so many women working for him. First of all, some misogynists like to keep women as ‘pets.’ Second, for political reasons. So he could claim he obviously wasn’t a misogynist to those who don’t get that misogynists sometimes like lots of women fetching coffee and taking orders from them, duh.

Woman on left just wants to sell guns

Yes, there are pamphlets and such out there, if you look for them hard enough, which will teach you how to make black powder, and basic devices of mass destruction; no one is denying that instructions for pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails will ever be thoroughly scrubbed enough in description from either culture or from the Internet to effectively deprive would-be users of them of the knowledge needed to make them. There may even be instructions for building nuclear weapons, but good luck getting the uranium.

However, if a fairly reliable death count is what you want, then everybody knows that these firearms are first choice. These weapons are also extremely complex, and cannot be easily reverse-engineered by someone tinkering with pipes and rope in their back garage, as Morgan conjures up in this segment. In other words, these instructions, short of the occasional responsible, hopefully-trained-and-experienced-in-their-usage-already, harmless hobbyist, will be immediately referenced by terrorists and madmen who want to commit mass shootings. Like yelling “Fire” in a crowded movie theater, the theoretical public benefit derived from this speech juxtaposed against the likelihood of the instructions’ availability one day leading to a mass shooting, is outweighed by the risk and cost of the latter. I completely understand this to be a reasonable curtailment of the First Amendment. At the very least, American lawmakers in Congress should discuss it before the plans are ever allowed online again.

Morgan’s reference to pornography is outrageous, and speaks volumes about her real motives, and lack of credibility on this issue. There is no comparison between the “irreparable harm” done by pornography, and that done by mass shootings. Zero. Everyone’s looked at porn, pretty much. A Supreme Court Justice once famously quipped about porn, “I know it when I see it.” The porn reference is also a glaring red herring, since 90% of porn sites or whatever are run in other countries. Effectively, Morgan is suggesting that it’s a problem we can’t solve, or we’d have to tear down the whole Universe and start over. It’s a bogus argument. Note, also, that Morgan is basically making a moral argument, even though she begins by contradicting the survivor and saying that “whether or not it’s fair” or “whether or not it makes sense” doesn’t matter. What?

Morgan really did completely flub this, from a certain perspective. Her laughter at his reference to the bullets ‘destroying you’ really shows that, although she’s a firearm instructor, she’s never seen what these firearms really do to people. To her, it’s still all an imaginary scenario. How can you be a reliable range owner, when you laugh about the damage some lay survivor accurately uses to describe an AR-15? She should be ashamed it happened at all. She should be working for solutions. No, it’s not restricting access to prescription depression medications. Not all of these shooters are on those. Some of them probably should have been on them. Yet another red herring.

I think Camerota missed the correct retort at timestamp (6:02 – 6:17): “But would you be more comfortable having those people with mental illnesses only able to build a shotgun or bomb, or them ALSO being able to build a functional AR-15?” Morgan can’t really answer this question. The only real answer to it is “just the shotgun and bomb.” Which brings me back to the beginning of my argument, here.

I’ve analyzed and written extensively about this segment before. One of the great segments of the Trump Error.

Man on right is in jail right now
Yes, the Harvard legal grad and professional liar always wears that little gold cross